Episode #165 With Rory Vaden of Procrastinate on Purpose


In Episode #165 Ari hosts Rory Vaden, a refined public speaker and New York Times Best Selling Author of Take the Stairs and Procrastinate on Purpose who works to help people live healthier, happier, more effective lives. During the interview, Rory breaks down the Procrastinate on Purpose methodology and explains why everything you know about time-management is wrong.

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Time Stamped Show Notes:

  • 17:40 – Introduction of Rory Vaden, New York Times Best-Selling Author of Take the Stairs and Procrastinate on Purpose
  • 18:09 – How Rory got into the “success” business
  • 20:30 – Rory got to meet and be mentored by Zig Zigler
  • 20:55 – Rory conducts 1-on-1 sales coaching—they have over 115 employees and 800 clients
  • 22:10 – The approach Rory takes is, “what’s holding you back?”
  • 22:30 – Improvement is less about a change in process and more about a change in thinking
  • 23:20 – Everything you know about time management is wrong
  • 24:36 – Efficiency has a point of diminishing returns
  • 25:04 – Importance and efficiency need to be correlated—if they’re not, you’ll find yourself in a never ending struggle to “catch-up”
  • 26:35 – The POP methodology
  • 27:00 – Significance changes everything
  • 27:15 – Dissecting the modern-day to-do list
  • 27:45 – You can’t solve today’s problems with yesterday’s tools and strategies
  • 28:05 – How can I use my time today to create more time tomorrow?
    • 29:50 – Online bill pay example
  • 31:00 – Give yourself the permission to take the time
  • 31:13 – ROTI—Return on Time Invested
  • 33:04 – The Focus Funnel
  • 33:58 – Time management today isn’t just logical, it’s emotional
  • 37:20 – Some of Rory’s favorite sources of automation:
    • 37:26 – Infusionsoft
  • 40:00 – Automation is to your time what compounding interest is to your money
  • 40:39 – We’re living in a day and age where automation has never been more readily available
  • 41:05 – Think long term!—Don’t overweight the urgency, place greater emphasis on significance
  • 42:40 – Rory’s Top 3 Tips to be More Effective:
    • 42:55 – Give yourself permission to invest an hour with Rory
    • 43:23 – Ask yourself the question: Is what I am doing right now something that ONLY I CAN DO?—ask this question all the time
    • 44:03 – It doesn’t matter who you are, or how good/bad you’ve been—success is never owned, it’s rented, and the rent is due every day.

7 Key Points:

  1. Identify the thing(s) that is holding you back.
  2. Improvement isn’t about a change in process it’s about a change in thinking.
  3. To solve today’s problems, you cannot use yesterday’s tools and strategies.
  4. Use your time today to create more time tomorrow.
  5. Do NOT disregard the return on time invested.
  6. Efficiency has a point of diminishing returns.
  7. Automation is to your time what compounding interest is to your money

Resources Mentioned:

  • Thankster – A service that will mail authentic, hand-written thank you cards—integrates with Zapier right out of the box
  • Everblock Systems – A company that will build on-demand modular plastic blocks
  • Here Active Listening – From Doppler Labs, a Kickstarter campaign for (arguably) the worlds smartest earbuds
  • Sleep Problem Solutions – 5 Sleep Problems Nobody Talks About
  • Fancy Hands Texting – A nice perk to stay in contact with your VA during a specific task


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